West Texas

Language_El Paso_EL_07202024

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This is Emiliano Lopez, today's date is 7/20/2024. And I'm here in [COMMUNITY NAME], for an interview with one of our community members, before we begin, I'd like to get verbal consent for the form that we went over. Could you please say, "I consent to being interviewed and audio recorded for this study?"

Interviewer

00:20 - 00:24

I consent to being interviewed and audio recorded 

Participant

00:24 - 00:30

Thank you. To get started, can you tell me about how you came to live in this community? 

Interviewer

00:30 - 00:35

We moved from [EAST COAST CITY NAME] in 1947. 

Participant

00:35 - 00:40

Could you tell me a bit more about this community? How would you describe it to someone who doesn't live here? 

Interviewer

00:40 - 00:48

Very safe, very livable, very affordable. Living a good neighborhood. 

Participant

00:48 - 00:51

How do you think this community has changed throughout your time living here?

Interviewer

00:51 - 01:03

It's improved in uh its streets, improved in its services, uh. It's a very well governed city. 

Participant

01:03 - 01:05

What would you say are the strength of this community? 

Interviewer

01:05 - 01:17

Safety. Safety and also energy we don't have brownouts or blackouts as much as other parts of the state. 

Participant

01:17 - 01:20

What would you say are some of the weaknesses of this community? 

Interviewer

01:20 - 01:33

Very low paying jobs for people that are young and have a need for higher income. It's more of a place for retired people than anything else. 

Participant

01:33 - 01:38

Could you tell me about the roles and relationships you have in this community? 

Interviewer

01:38 - 01:52

My role now, um I'm retired, but I worked the city of about 15 years in uh, in uh city engineering department, retired from there, uh in 1999. 

Participant

01:52 - 02:01

How do you, how do you think your connections in this community influence your work as a retired um member of the city of [COMMUNITY NAME]?

Interviewer

02:01 - 02:17

Well, I've received a very good pension for my heavy work with the city. But I'm not because of my age, I am not able to participate as much as I would like to, uh as I did before. 

Participant

02:17 - 02:28

Now, I would like to talk more about your work as a member of the city of [COMMUNITY NAME]. Could you tell me about how you got into this role?

Interviewer

02:28 - 02:47

I was, I was a union organizer. And I had an opportunity to go to an opportunity to work in the city it came up and I needed to improve my, my uh living conditions because of the benefits that the city provide for me and so I worked for the city engineering department. 

Participant

02:47 - 02:50

How long have you worked there? How long did you work there for?

Interviewer

02:50 - 02:54

I worked for 15 years, I had to retire for medical reasons.

Participant

02:54 - 02:57

What are the typical workday look like for you?

Interviewer

02:57 - 03:22

Uh, very enjoyable work. I had, I was the contract administrator for the city of [COMMUNITY NAME]. It was a very uh dynamic job I worked, uh. We had work all the time. It was very enjoyable. And but it became difficult at times because it was just a lot of work. But that was good.

Participant

03:22 - 03:28

What does it mean to be um, a member of the city in this community? What did, what did it mean for you? 

Interviewer

03:28 - 03:42

Oh good, able to retire and enjoy my life. When the time even though I was medically ill, um I was able to enjoy the benefits of retirement much more than possibly other people. 

Participant

03:42 - 03:46

What aspects of your job brought you the most joy or satisfaction? 

Interviewer

03:46 - 04:11

Seeing projects through um, because my job was to prepare contract documents to get costs for building or remodeling or reconstruction of city properties. And that was a great since I came from a construction family. It was great pleasure to have had the opportunity to have done that. 

Participant

04:11 - 04:16

What were some of the biggest challenges you faced in your work? 

Interviewer

04:16 - 04:35

Timelines, the urgency of getting these projects going and getting them completed at times. But they were just stuck obstacles that could be overcome or determined. So it really didn't have any major, major concerns, maybe occasions but overall not. 

Participant

04:35 - 05:17

Now let's talk more about your experience as a resident of this community. For this first set of questions, I'll read a statement to you and I'd like you to indicate the extent of your agreement with each one. I'll have you give your answer on a scale of one to four or one is completely disagree. Two is somewhat disagree. Three is somewhat agree and four is completely agree. If you'd like to comment on that any of these statements for you please feel free to. The first phrase is I considered myself to be I consider myself to be an American. Would you say that you one completely disagree? Two somewhat disagree, three somewhat agree or four completely agree or agree on a scale of one to four?

Interviewer

05:17 - 05:18

I agree.

Participant

05:18 - 05:22

On a scale of one to four, would you say four?

Interviewer

05:22 - 05:22

Four, mhm.

Participant

05:22 - 05:30

How would you rate the following statement? I consider myself to be a Texan.

Interviewer

05:30 - 05:33

Yes, four. 

Participant

05:33 - 05:52

Which of the following three statements do you agree with most strongly? I am American first and Texas, Texan, Second. I am Texan first and American second. Or being Texan and American are equally important to me. 

Interviewer

05:52 - 05:56

I think they're equally important to me. 

Participant

05:56 - 06:09

The next phrase is to be a true Texan, you must know how to speak English. What would you rate this one using the same scale we started with?

Interviewer

06:07 - 06:14

Mm, I would think a 3, I don't, don't, 3, 3.

Participant

06:14 - 06:23

How about to be a true Texan, you must know how to speak Spanish. One, one is completely disagree. 

Interviewer

06:23 - 06:27

1, disagree, you don't have to.

Participant

06:27 - 06:39

The next phrase is in my community you can do you can do everything you want and can act and get everything you need, even when you don't speak English. 

Interviewer

06:39 - 06:41

Um, I'd say a 3. 3. It does impact.

Participant

06:41 - 06:41

Three?

Interviewer

06:41 - 06:46

Si. It does impact us.

Participant

06:46 - 06:54

Mhm. Finally, in my community, life has been pretty stable over the last 40 years things haven't changed much. What would you say?

Interviewer

06:54 - 06:56

[INAUDIBLE] Repeat the question?

Participant

06:56 - 07:10

In my community, life has been pretty stable over the last 40 years, things haven't changed much. 1 would be completely disagree, 2 would be somewhat disagree, 3 would ble, 3 would be somewhat agree and 4 would be completely agree.

Interviewer

07:10 - 07:11

Three.

Participant

07:11 - 07:12

Three? Somewhat agree?

Interviewer

07:12 - 07:13

Mhm.

Participant

07:13 - 07:32

Now I'd like to hear from you about the community itself. What are some of the things that have changed in this community during the last few decades? 

Interviewer

07:32 - 07:51

Um, I think improved health services, um there's more people coming to this city of [COMMUNITY NAME] and becoming citizens of the, of the city. There's safety, there's good safety.  

Participant

07:51 - 07:53

Overall, is this a good community to live in? 

Interviewer

07:53 - 07:56

 Yes.  

Participant

07:56 - 08:08

What was or is the best part about being a kid or a young person in this community? 

Interviewer

08:08 - 08:20

You can live, you can be safe, you can be safe and you have good university to go to university. If you choose to continue to want to.

Participant

08:20 - 08:26

Do you feel that the traditional way of life in this community is going away? 

Interviewer

08:26 - 08:28

Uh, no, no. I don't think it's going away. 

Participant

08:28 - 08:32

If no, what do, what do you think keeps things the same? 

Interviewer

08:32 - 08:51

Perservation of cultures. Perservation  of cultures by people under, respecting others, [MUMBLED CONVERSATION, INAUDIBLE] 

Participant

08:51 - 08:53

What is your favorite sports team? 

Interviewer

08:53 - 08:57

Oh, Dallas Cowboys. [LAUGH]

Participant

08:57 - 09:00

Mhm. How have they, How have they been doing lately?

Interviewer

09:00 - 09:06

Not well, I think they, they are going to have a tough year.

Participant

09:06 - 09:10

Did you have to do chores when you were younger? Or now?  

Interviewer

09:10 - 09:15

Oh yes. That was yes, absolutely. 

Participant

09:15 - 09:18

What was the worst chore? 

Interviewer

09:18 - 09:27

There, I never distinguished bad chores I did it cause it had to be done. There's no category that I can say. 

Participant

09:27 - 09:34

What was a chore you don't mi--you don't mind so much. 

Interviewer

09:34 - 09:46

I don't mind any chore I was raised with a work ethic by my father so everything is doable. I've never had uh, any obstacle in doing anything. 

Participant

09:46 - 09:50

Did you ever get caught pretending to do a chore but not really doing it?

Interviewer

09:50 - 09:54

No, no. [COUGH]

Participant

09:54 - 10:03

Some people think that it's hard for boys and girls to be friends. What do you think?

Interviewer

10:03 - 10:28

Relationships are difficult but to be friends. The, I don't know how to answer up to a certain degree because relationships in order to continue basically will turn into romantic relationships without wanting. They just happen. Friendship you have a lot of friends, but sometimes intimacy just overcomes. 

Participant

10:28 - 10:38

Did you ever tell a story? Did you ever tell a story about another person thinking the other person was not near you? But then turned around and saw the person was standing right next to you? 

Interviewer

10:38 - 10:39

Yes, it's happened. 

Participant

10:39 - 10:42

Uhuh, Could you tell me about that? What happened? 

Interviewer

10:42 - 11:00

Oh, gosh. Remember the facts. It was just making a remark. But it was a, it was a commentary that was not a derogatory, was just a comment which I should have been more cautious. 

Participant

11:00 - 11:05

A lot of people think of the 1990s as the golden decade of pop music. Do you agree? 

Interviewer

11:05 - 11:08

No, no not really. 

Participant

11:08 - 11:14

If no, what was the best decade in pop music and why? 

Interviewer

11:14 - 11:24

The best decade was rock and roll area, rock and rock times with Elvis Presley and the Beatles. And those were the music. Favorite. 

Participant

11:24 - 12:14

Thank you so much for your answers. I really appreciate you taking the time to talk with me today. If you have the time. I just have one last request from you before we conclude our interview. One of the overarching research questions through the Home to Texas program is about linguistic changes in Texas. As part of this project, a linguistic researcher is asking that interview participants read a brief passage which should only take a couple of minutes. It's a short made up story about life in Texas that was created in the 1980s. And since, and since then, linguistic researchers have recorded a few 100 Texans reading it. They use these recordings as samples of people standard way of speaking as they tried to track how speed, how speeches in Texas varies and changes over time. Would you be willing to read a brief passage out loud?

Interviewer

12:14 - 12:16

Yes, yes.

Participant

12:16 - 12:32

Great. Thank you so much. Whenever you're ready, could you please read this passage out loud? 

Interviewer

12:32 - 12:33

As is?

Participant

12:33 - 13:34

Yes.

Interviewer

13:34 - 14:40

Si, ok.  I lived in Texas all my life. I was born in Titus County. When I was five. [COUGH]. We moved to a farm near White House, which is south east of Tyler. I like growing up in the county--, in the country, country. When my chores were done, I advise my, I ride my horse, climb trees or hike down to the creek to fish or swim. One time we taped tied a rope to a limb of a sighted forestry and would swing out wide over the brimming swimming hole and drop into the water. I'd pretend to be Tarzan swinging on a vine. In the spring I'd fly kites and on summer nights we'd catch fireflies but we call them lightning bugs. Once in a while we have fights with corn cobs or pine cones in the wind to rebuild. We'd build a fire in the fireplace and pop popcorn and roast peanuts and pecans. I go saw was a live wire. When I was 19 I went to work in Dallas at Firestone Tire company. I didn't like city life. And for a long time I go home every chance I got my mom would always cook my favorite foods, fried okra, hoppin John, that's rice and black eyed peas and pecan pie. We had a lot of good times but going home is not the same. And daddy ma died, mama sold the farm and moved to Tyler. I rather be living on a farm right now instead of here in the city, but my wife and kids don't understand me when I gripe about city life and talk about moving into the country. My oldest child says "Daddy that's crazy. I just die if I had to live on a farm." I almost cried the first time she said that I know Texas is changing. But I've tried to make sure we don't lose touch with the roots. We may live in a city. I want my kids to have a good feeling for the land and have a sense of place and pride in being Texans. If they lose their ties to the land, the price the program, progress is too high. 

Participant

14:40 - 14:54

Thank you for contributing your voice to the collection. And thank you so much for taking the time to share your experiences with me. I really appreciate your time and generosity. If you don't have any other questions or comments. I'll go ahead and stop the recording now.

Interviewer

14:54 - 14:56

Thank you, no, no questions. 

Participant

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